Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts · Slate Podcasts

He Quit the Bench to Raise the Alarm

November 15, 2025·1 hr 16 min·5 clips
A federal judge explains why he retired to speak out against Trump's assault on the rule of law.
Dahlia Lithwick interviews retired federal judge Mark Wolfe, who quit the bench to warn about Trump's erosion of the rule of law, and California AG Rob Bonta, who discusses lawsuits against Trump's policies like SNAP cuts and emergency powers abuse. The episode explores judicial ethics, corruption, and state-led legal resistance.

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A blunt reminder that courts only matter when people insist on obedience.

Mark L. Wolf's point is plain: democracy does not hold together on legal theory alone. It depends on people deciding that court orders should actually be followed.

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When you want a serious case for why court orders still matter.

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