All in Triathlon with Jelle Geens and Aaron Royle · All in triathlon

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January 15, 2026·59 min·3 clips
They are back in the living room, and nobody is pretending otherwise. The joke is part of the charm, since the AIT HQ setup is treated more like an ongoing bit than a problem. From there the hosts settle into a straightforward catch-up on the week. One of them picked up a bit more training, skipped Wednesday Worlds, and blamed a sore back, which keeps the opening stretch grounded in everyday race life rather than grand theory. The conversation then drifts into the kind of details triathletes actually obsess over. A lot of time goes into drafting distance, and the two of them work through why 20 meters has real support while 12 meters has almost nobody openly backing it. They point out that the public debate is not always as neutral as it sounds. If you have to put your name to your answer, the whole thing changes tone. They also reference a poll where 85% of people picked 20 meters. That number matters, but they still wonder how different the result would look if everyone answered anonymously. The talk stays practical, not academic. They keep asking who gains, who loses, and what the rule would mean for front-pack swimmers, mid-pack swimmers, and the stronger bikers in the field. One host admits that 20 meters may suit him, then talks himself back toward the wider case for it. The other pushes on the point that not everyone is Magnus Ditlev, Sam Laidlow, Rico Bogen, or Hayden Wilde on the bike. That keeps the exchange rooted in real race dynamics instead of abstract hot takes. There is also a dry little thread about how the strongest bikers can still make life hard for the fastest runners. The pair let that point sit instead of smoothing it over. Near the end, they move into a tease about an upcoming guest. The guest is framed as a Belgian absolute superstar, with the clear hint that this would be a major booking if it comes off. It closes with the usual sign-off energy, the kind that leaves you expecting another week of training chat, rule talk, and mild teasing.

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Training chat, drafting rules, and a guest tease keep this one moving.

This episode keeps the familiar All In Triathlon rhythm: two hosts back at AIT HQ, swapping jokes about the living-room setup, then moving through training updates, a sore back, and the call to skip Wednesday Worlds.

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