A Date With Dateline · Kimberly and Katie - ADWDL

Secrets of the Sliding Door S.33 Ep.27

·1 hr 28 min·5 clips

Jonathan Krupe was having sex with an escort named Miss Pumpkin the very day his wife Simonette was found dead.

This episode recaps and discusses Dateline NBC's "Secrets of the Sliding Door," covering the 2015 murder of Staten Island teacher Simonette "Sissy" Mapes Krupe. Hosts Kimberly and Katie, celebrating their podcast's eighth anniversary, provide commentary on the true crime case with their signature humor and analysis. The episode details how Simonette's husband, Jonathan Krupe, reported finding her stabbed to death in their ransacked home, leading to an investigation. The hosts describe the victim as a beloved, Disney-loving social studies teacher who worked in a high-crime Brooklyn school and was devoted to her students. They highlight the initial police theory of a burglary gone wrong, noting the open sliding door and Jonathan's alibi of running errands that day. A key development was the discovery of unknown female DNA at the scene and a contact named "Woman" in Simonette's phone. Detectives traced this to an online adult services ad for "Ms. Pumpkin," whom they lured to a motel for questioning. Ms. Pumpkin revealed she knew Jonathan Krupe as "Mike," a regular client for years, contradicting his image as a devoted husband. The hosts find it surprising that Simonette seemingly knew of this contact, saved as "Woman" in her own phone. They note Keith Morrison's dramatic delivery when revealing Jonathan's "sex secret" and the plan to ensnare Ms. Pumpkin, which they humorously question for its legality and logistics. A memorable moment is neighbor Bob Garbarino's reenactment of Jonathan's hysterical 911 call, which the hosts celebrate for its theatricality. The tone is conversational, humorous, and digressive, blending case analysis with personal anecdotes, sponsor ads, and tangents about pop culture like *Hamilton* and *Dangerous Minds*. Listeners who enjoy comedic, chatty recaps of true crime stories with host camaraderie and cultural references will love this episode. Those seeking a serious, focused analysis of the case without levity or lengthy sponsor segments might prefer to skip it.

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Anniversary banter and a rare Sunday Dateline drop lead into a very odd Ms Pumpkin discussion.

A Date With Dateline opens with anniversary banter and a thank-you to listeners and Dateline, then leans into the loose, pointed chat that defines the show.

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You get a rare Sunday Dateline surprise and a Ms Pumpkin tangent with a face-cropped photo.

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