Danielle Zapchenk: Listening with Heart, Faith, and Family Wisdom /EP 4241

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Danielle Zapchenk describes how God parents her while she parents her overwhelmed 15-year-old daughter.

The episode is a conversation between host Angel Jones and guest Danielle Zapchenk. It begins with casual banter about fall weather and pumpkins in Chicago. Angel asks Danielle about the source of her evident grit and polished communication style. Danielle attributes her work ethic and listening skills to her parents, who were an interior designer and a hairstylist with a gift for hospitality. She explains that her precise speaking comes from high school competitive speaking and a deep desire to make people feel seen and known. The conversation shifts to family, where Danielle describes parenting her 15-year-old daughter, who feels overwhelmed by academic pressures, and her more easygoing son. She reveals that in these parenting moments, she feels God is simultaneously parenting her. Danielle discusses her journey into ministry, noting she was initially reluctant but was encouraged by her husband and community to take on roles in women's ministry, church communications, and eventually podcasting. She talks about her 18-year marriage to Eric, whom she met at a radio station and initially considered just a friend, highlighting their supportive dynamic. When asked for advice, Danielle emphasizes the importance of asking open-ended questions to foster deeper listening, sharing an anecdote about a brief, meaningful exchange with a cart attendant in a Walmart parking lot. She connects this practice to creating community and reflects on how Jesus exemplified love through listening. The episode concludes with Angel blessing Danielle's family and ministry work.

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